Friday, September 30, 2011

Menu with what's on sale for the week of Sept. 28-Oct. 5

If you wanted to have fish tacos instead of leftovers one night, buy the Gorton's Fish for $4.99 and some McCormick's taco seasoning to spice up some sour cream for fish tacos. Food Club ice cream also at Bashas' for $2.50. I like to stockpile the pork loins when they get to $1.88 lb. I slice them up and they make the best chops that way. I like to cook pork roasts also. In fact a great pork roast just screams "fall" to me.

In Bashas' ad it says that they are making all coupons valued under $1 to $1.00 this week. Not sure when that offer expires. There are some Planters Peanut butter coupons from one of the weeks of coupons from the newpaper and it makes the Peanut butter .99.
Check for other great deals and coupon match ups this week.


1-Cold cereal, milk, orange juice
2-French toast
3-Cold cereal, milk, apple juice
4-Oatmeal, strawberries
5-Cold cereal, milk, apple juice

1-Tuna sandwich, plums
2-PB&J sandwich, orange
3-Tuna sandwich, apple, carrots/celery sticks
4-PB&J sandwich, orange
5-Pasta Salad, apple, carrots/celery sticks (pasta, olives, leftover chicken, onion)
6-Pizza, pudding cup
7-Hog dog, grapes

1-Chicken Sour cream enchiladas, green salad, Spanish Rice (see recipe under chicken)
2-Pork chops, mashed potatoes, frozen veg. of choice (cut pork loin into two pieces, cut one into chops, the other into strips or cubes for sweet and sour pork)
3-Spaghetti, sauce, salad, garlic bread or plain french bread
4-Grilled Sirloin steak, cut into slices, baked potato, frozen veg. of choice
5-Mac & cheese, frozen veg. of choice
6-Sweet and sour pork loin over rice (see recipe under chicken for sweet and sour chicken)

Red grapes, .77 lb., buy 2 lbs.
French bread, .99, buy 2
Red Baron Pizza, $2.99
Kraft mac & cheese, 2/$1, buy 2
Handi snacks, 2/$1, buy 1
Albertson's frozen vegs., 10/$10, buy 3

Bashas' milk, .88 per half gallon, limit 4, buy 4 at $3.52
Strawberries, .98
Boneless beef top Sirloin, $2.97 lb, buy 2 lbs. at $5.94
Food Club Pasta, $1, buy 2, one for spaghetti and one for pasta salad
S&W tomatoes, $1, buy 1
Early Californiz Olives, 2/$3, buy 1

Tomatoes, .88 lb., buy 2 lbs.
Chicken of the Sea tuna, .69, buy 2
Plums, .88 lb., buy 2 lbs.
Navel oranges, .88 lb., buy 4 lbs.
Boneless half Pork loin, $1.88 lb, buy 4 lbs.
Kroger sour cream, 4/$5, buy 1
Foster Farms chicken, .98 lb., buy 3 lbs. at $2.94
Kroger bag cereal, $3.39
Kroger Value bread, .99, buy 4 loaves at $3.96
Kroger orange juice, $1.32
Kroger Value hot dogs, .99
Kroger Value hot dog buns, .99
Flour tortillas, $2.49
carrots, 1 lb., .69
Kroger Rice, $1.46
Potatoes, 5 lbs., $2.89
Eggs, $1.99
Kroger Value Apple juice, $1.67
Fry's cream of chicken soup, $1.29
Kroger Value Spaghetti sauce, .99
Kroger Value cheese, $1.49

Onions, .49 lb.
Cucumbers, .49
Radishes, .49
celery, .88
romaine, .88
Oats, .89, buy 2 lbs.

Items not on grocery list:
herbs and spices
syrup or powdered sugar for the french toast
salad dressing
soy sauce

Thursday, September 22, 2011

Menu with what's on sale for the week of Sept. 21-Sept. 27

Some good buys this week. If I were going to stockpile chickens this week, I would go to Bashas' several times and buy the Sanderson Farms Whole chicken fryers at .67 lb. There is a limit of 2 per visit. Also on Fri., Sat. and Sun., the Bashas' sandwich bread is .99 loaf. Red Baron pizza for $2.88 per pizza. Nothing beats a Red Baron Pizza on a Sunday night or when you don't know what else to do for dinner.

If you want to add apple juice for some mornings, Albertson's apple juice or apple cider for $1.48 at Albertson's. I wouldn't stockpile now, it will probably go much cheaper closer to Halloween.

You could keep the budget in the 70's if you omit the thick cut bacon from Bashas'.


1-Breakfast taco, orange juice (flour tortilla, eggs and some bacon crumbles)
2-Cold cereal, milk, orange juice
3-Cold cereal, milk, orange juice
4-Oatmeal, orange juice
5-Cold cereal, milk
6-Oatmeal, orange juice
7-French toast

1-Tuna sandwich, grapes
2-PB&J sandwich, orange
3-Tuna sandwich, apple, carrot sticks
4-Cottage cheese, cantaloupe chunks
5-Ham sandwich, apple
6-Pizza, soda, cantaloupe chunks
7-Lunchmeat sandwich, grapes, carrot sticks

1-French bread pizza, green salad, deviled eggs
2-Ham fried rice, egg rolls (use some ham lunchmeat)
3-Potatoes and sausage skillet, steamed carrots
4-Roasted chicken, green beans, green salad
5-Hot dog, buns, potato salad
6-Soup, garlic cheese toast
7-Favorite chicken rice (chicken risotto), broccoli, french bread. See recipes under chicken

Cantaloupe, .88
Hunt's pasta sauce, .88
Hillshire Farm smoked sausage, $3.98
Mission Flour tortillas, 2/$3, buy 1
French bread, .98, buy 2
Carrots, 2 lb. bag, .88
Red new potatoes, .88 lb., buy 3 lbs.

Bashas' eggs, Fri., Sat. & Sun. only, .88, limit 2, buy 2
Bashas' sandwich bread, .99, limit 3, buy 3
Whole chicken, .67 lb., limit 2, buy 4 lbs.
green grapes, .88 lbs., limit 5 lbs., buy 3 lbs.
Gala apples, .88 lbs, limit 5 lbs., buy 3 lbs.
Red Baron Pizza, $2.88
Tai Pei egg rolls, $4.99
Bashas' cottage cheese, $2.39
Progresso soup, $1, buy 3
Starkist tuna, .69, buy 2
Thick slice bacon from the meat counter, $3.49 lb.

Kroger cheese, $2.99
Green onions, 2/$1, buy 1 at .50
Radishes, 2/$1, buy 1 at .50
cucumbers, .59
mushrooms, 2/$3, buy 1 at $1.50
Bar S Franks, 10/$10
Kroger Value buns, .99
Kroger Value Peanut butter, $1.99
Fry's chicken broth, .99, buy 2
Kroger rice, $1.79
Kroger Orange juice, $1.32, buy 2 at $2.64
Kroger bag cereal, $3.39
Big K soda, .69
Kroger Value Ham lunchmeat, $3.97
Milk, I've allowed for $2.50, buy 2 gallons at $5.00

Roma tomatoes, .88 lb.
Bell Peppers, 3/$1, buy 1 at .33
Iceberg lettuce, .88
Green beans, .88 lb.
Broccoli, .88 lb.
oranges, .99 lb., buy 4 lbs. at $3.96
Oats, .89 lb., buy 2 lbs.

Items not on grocery list:
butter or margerine
spices and herbs
condiments for hot dogs

Friday, September 16, 2011

Menu with what on sale for the week of Sept. 14-Sept. 20

In some ways the ads are a little lackluster again this week but in another way there are some good deals to be gotten this week. If you sit down with the 3 major store ads, Albertson's, Bashas' and Fry's, you can come up with a plan to stockpile what is good this week to use in future weeks. I may go to Albertson's and/or Bashas' and buy 10 lbs. of ground chuck for $20 to fry up and freeze in meal portions for spaghetti sauce and taco meat. I may buy some raspberries to make some berry pancake syrup out of. Fry's had canned fruit for a good price but it was on a buy 10 deal, so you'd have to buy other stuff on the deal to make ten, or buy ten fruit cans. Mayonnaise was also a pretty good buy for Kraft at Fry's on the buy ten deal.


1-Egg biscuit, orange juice
2-Cold cereal, milk, orange juice
3-Cold cereal, milk, banana slices, orange juice
4-Cold cereal, milk, orange juice
5-Cold cereal, milk, raspberries, orange juice
6-Egg Biscuits, peaches
7-Orange rolls

1-Ham sandwich, strawberries
2-PB&J sandwich, apple
3-Ham sandwich, orange
4-PB&J sandwich, apple
5-Ham sandwich, banana
6-Pasta salad, orange
7-Soup with croutons, any leftovers

1-Spaghetti, salad, garlic toasted french bread
2-Tacos, Spanish rice
3-Tuna melt on french bread, applesauce
4-Chicken Caesar salad, make croutons from leftover french bread or garlic toast
5-Hamburger Helper, frozen veg. of choice
6-Chicken enchiladas, frozen veg. of choice
7-Cheese and bacon omelett, frozen veg. of choice

Tortilla chips
mini muffins made out of cake mix ( mini cupcakes without frosting)

Strawberries, .99
Albertson's milk, $1.57, buy 2 at $3.14
Albertson's eggs, .99, buy 2 at $1.98
French bread, .99, buy 2
Albertson's salad dressing, $1
Mott's applesauce, $1
Mi Ranchito tortilla chips, $1
Jolly Time microwave popcorn, $1
La Victoria Enchilada sauce, $1
Boneless skinless chicken, $1.77 lb., buy 3 lbs. at $5.31
Buy 8 deal
1-Hamburger Helper, .99
2-Betty Crocker cake mix, .99
3-Pillsbury Grands! .99
4-Pillsbury Grands!.99
5-Pillsbury Orange rolls, $1.49
6-Green Giant steamers, .99
7-Old El Paso taco shells, .99
8-Old El Paso Spanish rice mix, .99

Ground chuck, $1.99 lb., buy 3 lbs. at $5.97
Bananas, .39 lb., buy 3 lbs. at $1.17
Hormel bacon, $2.99
Barilla Pasta, 10/$10, buy 1 for the spaghetti dinner
Hunt's Pasta sauce, 10/$10, buy 1
Suddenly Salad, 10/$10, buy 1
Flav R Pac vegs., 5/$5, buy 2
Campbell's soup, 10/$10, buy 2
American Chef turkey or ham lunchmeat, 2/$5, buy 1 at $2.50

Driscoll raspberries, .97
Kroger Value bread, .99, buy 4 at $3.96
Kroger bag cereal, $3.39
Kroger Value orange juice, $1.32, buy 2 at $2.64
Tuna, I've allowed for .79, buy 2
Kroger Value cheese, $1.49, buy 3
Mission soft taco sized tortillas, 2/$3, buy 1 at $1.50 (these are for the enchiladas)
Kroger Value Peanut butter, $1.99

Oranges, .88 lb., buy 4 lbs. at $3.52 (you need 8 oranges)
Gala apples, .88 lb., buy 3 lbs. at $2.64 (you need 8 apples)
Red or green bell peppers, 3/$1, buy 1 at .33
Roma tomatoes, .88 lb.
White Peaches, .88 lb., buy 2 lbs. at $1.76
Romaine, .99, buy 2

Items not on grocery list:
herbs and spices
frosting if you wish for the mini cupcakes. Or put some peanut butter on them
Parmesan for the caesar salad

Sunday, September 11, 2011

Menu with what's on sale for the week of Sept. 7-Sept. 13

Produce prices are pretty good this week, but still nothing really jumped out at me this week. If I were going to stockpile $50 worth of items this week, I don't know what it would be. Maybe 10 lbs. of oats at Sprouts for .69/lb. Maybe some Campbell's soups, although I think that they may go for sale cheaper as we go deeper into fall. You could buy the Raspberries at Albertson's for .99 and make some freezer jam if you wanted to. We love our Raspberry freezer jam over here. There is a limit of buying four containers at once. If you wanted to buy some Bar S franks and freeze them, that might be a good move and I might consider buying extras of apples and oranges to have in the fruit bin for next week.


1-Cold cereal, milk, cantaloupe chunks, orange juice
2-Oatmeal, OJ
3-Cold cereal, milk, bananas, OJ
4-French toast, OJ You may want to use the leftover stale french bread
6-Cold cereal, milk

1-PB&J sandwich, apple
2-Turkey sandwich, orange
3-PB&J sandwich, cantaloupe chunks
4-Turkey sandwich, apple
5-Turkey sandwich, orange
6-Campbell's soup, grapes, crackers
7-Campbell's soup, peach, crackers

1-Potato soup, french bread, cheese for topping
2-Bacon, lettuce and tomato sandwich, broccoli, carrot sticks and pepper strips with Ranch dressing for dipping
3-Chicken nuggets, baked potato, frozen veg. of choice. You may need to buy another loaf of bread for the bread crumbs for the nuggets if you don't have any or use the leftover french bread and pulse in your food processor or blender
4-Spaghetti, salad, french bread
5-Hot dog, frozen vegetable of choice
6-Chicken stir fry using zucchini, broccoli, onions, pepper strips, mushrooms, chicken.
7-Tuna noodle casserole, frozen vegetable of choice. For the casserole, pasta, tuna, cream of mushroom or cream of chicken soup

Raspberry Peach Crisp, recipe on my recipe list under desserts

Raspberries, .99 ea
Albertson's gallon milk, $1.57, buy 3 at $4.71
Campbell's soups, $1, buy 4 at $4
Iceberg, .69
French bread, .99, buy 2 at $1.98
Albertson's peanut butter, $1.77
Bar S franks, 10/$10, buy 1

Grapes, .88 lb., buy one
Gala apples, .88 lb., buy 3 lbs. at $2.64
Boneless skinless chicken $1.77 lb., buy 3 At $5.31
Chicken of the Sea Tuna, .69,
Food Club snack crackers, 2/$3, buy one at $1.50

Oranges, .88 lb., buy 4 lbs. at $3.52
Broccoli, .88 lb., buy 2 lbs. at $1.76
Cantaloupe, .77
KV orange juice, $1.32, buy 2 at $2.64
Bar S Bacon, $2.99
Bananas, .57 lb., buy 2 at $1.14
KV bread, .99, buy 4 at $3.96
Eggs, $1.99
KV Turkey, $3.49
Kroger bag cereal, $3.39
Potatoes, 5# bag, $2.89
Onions, .78 lb., buy 1 lbs. worth, probably 2 onions
Vegetable or chicken broth (for the potato soup), .99 Fry's brand, buy 2 at $1.98
KV frozen vegs., buy 3 at 10/$10, so $3
KV cheese, $1.49
Barilla pasta, $1.38
Fry's spaghetti, .99
Fry's cream of mushroom soup, $1.29
carrots, .69
KV margerine, .67
KV spaghetti sauce, .99
KV hot dog buns, .99

Peaches, .67 lb., buy 4 lbs. at $2.68
Roma tomatoes, .67 lb., buy 3 lbs at $2.01
White mushroom, .88
zucchini, .88 lb.
Oats, .69 lb., buy 3 lbs. at $2.07
Bell peppers, 3/$1

Items not on grocery list:
brown sugar
bread crumbs if you don't want to make your own
hot dog condiments
soy sauce or teriyaki or hoisin, whatever you like in your stir fry

Sunday, September 4, 2011

Week #3-Feeding your family of five on $75.84

Almost $10 over week #1 and #2 but you can cut out the bag cereal and milk and add more oats or you can add Ramen noodles at 5/$1 instead of a couple of PB&J lunches which would omit one peanut butter jar at $1.99. You can also mix and match with the other weeks to get something you like and that fits into your weekly food budget.


1-Cold cereal, milk, orange juice
3-Cold cereal, milk, orange juice
5-Cold cereal, milk, orange juice
6-Oatmeal, orange juice
7-Cold cereal, milk

1-PB&J sandwich, carrots/celery sticks
2-PB&J sandwich, orange sections
3-PB&J sandwich, apple wedges
4-PB&J sandwich, celery sticks
5-PB&J sandwich, orange sections
6-PB&J sandwich, apple wedges
7-PB&J sandwich

1-Homemade Pizza Total=$4.49
Ingredients: Flour, yeast, water, salt and oil for the dough. Use a bread dough recipe for crust. Spaghetti sauce and cheese to top. I've allowed for two packages of mozzarella.

2-Chicken and homemade Rice A Roni, vegetable of choice Total=$4.75
Ingredients: Cooked chicken, orzo or spaghetti bits, rice, chicken broth, some onion and garlic if desired. I couldn't find the recipe that I was looking for on this one so I think that we can work it out on our own. Cook the chicken and pull the meat off of the bone, some for this meal and the rest for the Cobb Salad meal. Take a small amount of the orzo or the spaghetti bits (like maybe 1/4 C. or less) and sautee in a little veg oil in a pot until a golden or light brown. The browner it gets, the more flavor it will have but don't burn it. Add the rice and onion. Add enough chicken stock to whatever ratio of rice you add. Maybe you'll need a tad more for the pasta, I'm not sure. So if you have 2 C. of rice, add 4 C. of chicken broth, with maybe a tad water, bring to a boil and cover and simmer for 20 minutes until rice and orzo are done. Be sure to check and add more water if needed. Add the chicken at the end.

3-Ham hock and lentils, french bread Total=$4.97
Ingredients: Ham hock. They come in a package of 3 in my Fry's store. I think you'll only need one, so freeze the rest and then next time you make this you will not have this added expense. Lentils, onion, chopped celery, some chopped carrots, water. Recipe on my recipe list under pork and/or crockpot.

4-Cheese crisps Total=$5.47
Ingredients: Cheese, burrito sized flour tortillas

5-Rice stuffed Bell Peppers, canned vegetable of choice Total=$4.00
Ingredients: Rice, onion, garlic if desired, tomato sauce, 3 bell peppers cut in half vertically.

6-Cobb Salad Total=$5.41
Ingredients: Romaine, 2-3 chopped hard boiled eggs, grated cheddar cheese, bottled dressing of choice, cooked chicken (use half in salad, the other half in the chicken rice).

7-Egg/cheese tacos Total=$5.97
Ingredients: Burrito sized flour tortillas, scrambled eggs, shredded cheddar.

Grocery List (Based on Kroger (Fry's) prices)
French bread, $1.29
Kroger Value bread, .99/loaf, buy 4 at $3.96

Kroger Orange juice, $1.32, buy 2 at $2.64

Oats, .89 lb., buy 2 lbs. at $1.78 (Sprouts price)

Kroger bag cereal, $3.39
Kroger Flour, $2.04
Yeast, I've allowed for $1.99, you'll have some leftover
Kroger Rice, $1.46
Barilla Orzo, $1.29
Kroger Lentils, $1.59

Kroger Value spaghetti sauce, .99
Fry's vegetables, .50, buy 2 at $1.00
Fry's chicken broth, .99, buy 2
Kroger Value tomato sauce, .34, buy 2 at .68
Kroger dressing, $1.49
Kroger Value Peanut butter, $1.99, buy 3 at $5.97
Kroger Value grape jelly, $1.67

Eggs, $1.99 (you can usually find them on sale during the week for less)
Milk, $3.49 (same with milk, there will be a sale somewhere to bring your food costs down)

Wall Deli
Kroger Value shredded Mozzarella cheese, $1.49, buy 2 at $2.98
Kroger Value shredded cheddar cheese, $1.49, buy 4 at $5.96

Fry's burrito sized flour tortilla, $2.49, buy 2 at $4.58

Ham hock, $3.49 for 3
Chicken, based on a sale price of .69 lb., buy 3 lbs. at $2.07

Onions, .78 lb., buy 2 at aprox. .78 lb.
Carrots, 1 lb., .69
Celery $1.18
Green peppers, 2/$1, buy 3 at $1.50 (based on sale price)
Garlic, .59
Romaine, .99
Apples, $1.49 lb., buy 2 lbs. at $2.98
Oranges, $1.29 lb., buy 3 lbs. at $3.87

Items not on grocery list
Those two items should carry over from week $1

Saturday, September 3, 2011

Menu with what's on sale for the week of Aug. 31-Sept. 6

Not really the stock pile week that I had hoped for with a week preceding a 3 day weekend. However, there are a few things on my list that I could put stars by to stockpile.

At Fry's, Dreyer's ice cream for $2.88, Oreos for $2.50, Hunt's ketchup for $1.25, Kraft Mayo for $3.69.

At Bashas', Bashas' brand drinking water for $1.88, Gatorade for .67, Campbell's Pork and Beans, 3/$1, Bar S meat franks, .99, La Victoria enchilada sauce or salsa, 2/$4. The price for the water is only good until Monday.

At Albertson's, green grapes, .69. Some people like to get them at cheap prices and freeze them. You have to eat them frozen though, so that plan only works if you like them frozen.


1-Cold cereal, milk, OJ
2-Oatmeal, OJ
3-Cold cereal, milk
4-Oatmeal, OJ
5-Cold cereal, milk, OJ
7-Cold cereal, milk

1-PB&J sandwich, grapes, carrots
2-Turkey sandwich, cantaloupe chunks, celery
3-Pasta Salad
4-PB&J sandwich, crackers
5-Turkey Sandwich, orange
6-Ramen noodles, carrots, celery
7-Ramen, grapes, leftovers

1-Hot dogs, Chips, Pork and Beans, Pepsi
2-Pasta salad. Scallions, tomatoes, turkey cubes, a few steamed gr. beans, a few vegs from the frozen vegs pkg., pasta in ranch or italian dressing
3-Chicken, corn on the cob, watermelon
4-Chicken enchiladas, salad
5-Mac & Cheese, steamed broccoli
6-Italian sausage, onions and peppers, steamed green beans
7-Spaghetti Alfredo, frozen vegs.

Ice cream

Green grapes, .69 lb., buy 2 lbs.

Corn, 7 for .98, this price is only good until Monday.
Head lettuce, .49
Split chicken breats/leg 1/4's, .97 lb., buy 4 lbs. at $3.88
Cantaloupe, .75
Mission tortillas, 2/$3, buy 1
La Victoria enchilada sauce, 2/$4, buy 1
Campbell's Pork and Beans, 3/$1, buy 2 at .66
Bar S meat franks, .99

Wheat Thins, $1.88
Kroger ice cream, $1.97 (or you can buy Blue Bunny ice cream at Bashas' with coupon for $1.88, $10 min. purchase and coupon)
Kroger salad dressing, $1.39
Ragu Pasta sauce, $1.58
American Beauty Pasta, 10/$10, buy 2, one for Spaghetti Alfredo and one for Pasta Salad
Kroger chips, 5/$5, buy 1
Pepsi, .86
Kroger froz. vegs., 10/$10
Oranges, $1.29 lb., buy 2 lbs.
Broccoli crown, 10/$10, buy 1 lb.
Kroger Value mac & cheese, .42, buy 2
Johnsonville Italian sausage, $3.99
Kroger Value Peanut butter, I've allowed for $1.99
Eggs, I've allowed for $1.99
Milk, I've allowed for $2.50, buy 2
Ramen noodles, I've allowed for 5/$1, buy 5
Kroger bag cereal, $3.39, buy 1
Kroger Value cheese, $1.49
Kroger Value orange juice, $1.32, buy 2
Kroger Value turkey lunchmeat, $3.49
Kroger Value bread, .99, buy 4 at $3.96

Whole watermelon, $1.49
Red or green bell peppers, 3/$1, buy 1 at .33
Green onions, .49
tomatoes, .88 lb., buy 1 lb.
Onions, .49 lb., buy 1 at aprox. .25
Baby carrots, .88
celery, .88
Green beans, .88 lb.
Oats, .89 lb., buy 3 lbs. at $2.67

Items not on grocery list:
condiments for hot dog dinner
spices and herbs
brown sugar if you decide to make the Pork and Beans into baked beans

Friday, September 2, 2011

Labor Day Party Menu

Labor Day BBQ Menu
Feed aproximately 12-16

Hot dogs
carrots/celery with ranch dip
Chips and dip
watermelon wedges
Baked Beans
Pepsi or Pepsi products

watermelon, $1.49
Baby carrots, .88
Celery, .88

Kroger Ranch dressing, $1.39
Kroger chips, 5/$5, buy 1
Kroger dip, $1.50
Kroger Valu buns, .99, buy 2
Pepsi, .86, buy 2

Campbell's Pork and Beans, 3/$1, buy 6
Bar S meat franks, .99, buy 2
Betty Crocker brownie mix, 4/$5, buy 2

Only items not on grocery list are condiments for the hot dogs and ketchup and brown sugar to make baked beans.


Got this from some food site, now don't remember which one

1 meaty ham bone or use salt pork
6 C. water
1 1/2 C. lentils
2 C. sliced carrots
1 C. chopped celery
1 C. chopped onion
2 tsp. salt
1 tsp. sugar
1/4 tsp. pepper
1 bay leaf

Prepare lentils per package instructions and put all ingredients into the crockpot. I think that I would do low 6-8 hrs. or hight aprox. 4 hours.